I am sure like me, there have been times when you have wondered what difference might have been made to your life, if your younger self had been gifted with the experience and knowledge you have accumulated over the years.
I invited several friends from the writing community to share their thoughts on this subject which I am sure you will enjoy as much as I did.
Today author Pete Springer shares his experiences in high school following a move to California in response to the prompt.
What I Wish I Knew Then by Pete Springer
Sometimes I feel like one of the luckiest people on Earth. I was born into a stable family with great parents and three terrific older brothers. I married a great lady, and we have an adult son who is making his mark in the world. We’re proud of the man he has become.
My career as an elementary teacher was rewarding, and I’m filled with pride as I watch many of my former students doing extraordinary things.
One of the things I’ve noticed about myself is that I tend to be more philosophical as I get older. Maybe that’s a symptom of having more time on my hands. It doesn’t necessarily mean I’m any smarter, but I do find myself thinking about some of the lessons I’ve learned.
If I could have one do-over in life, it would be my high school years. After a happy childhood, we moved cross-country to California when I was starting high school. Maybe it was the combination of being at an awkward age, moving to a new place, and not having the self-confidence to embrace new challenges at the time, but those years weren’t a particularly happy time. I wasn’t depressed, but I wasn’t joyful either.
High school was cliquish, and for a guy who didn’t fit in any of the groups, I found that I kept to myself more and didn’t have a lot of close friendships.
Around the time I turned eighteen, I made a thoughtful decision to expand my horizons and to get out of my comfort zone. No more playing it safe and always resorting to only familiar and comfortable things.
I found my true self during college. I tried new things with enthusiasm and put forth the best version of myself. Not every unique experience turned out the way I hoped it would, but I was no longer living in fear. Those feelings of empowerment made me feel better about myself, and people accepted me for me.
I went from a scared teenager to a confident adult—someone who could stand in front of a group of people and command their attention with an outgoing and fearless persona. Don’t get me wrong—I still am fearful in many situations, but I’ve learned that we feel best about ourselves when we embrace new challenges.
Why am I thinking about this today? Perhaps it’s because I’ve just accomplished one of my goals—the completion of the first draft of a middle-grade chapter book.
While I was teaching, one of my favorite things to do during a typical school day was to read to my students. Each day I got to be a performer and act out the voices of the authors’ characters. I could be brash, silly, humble, mean, or any other characteristic that I imagined the author intended. It was a rush to hook the kids into the plots and the characters. I always tried to leave them begging for more. “Don’t stop! Keep reading!”
Those phrases were music to my ears.
Pete didn’t just read to his class he also took his new baby son in for them to meet
When I was teaching, I made a decision that I was going to try and write a children’s book to recapture that feeling. Having taught many ages, I decided to target those children I was most familiar with—middle grades. After first writing a combination memoir/advice book for new teachers, I decided the time was right. I went to a writer’s conference, found a critique group, and I’m going for it. What started as a vision of 30,000 words became 50,000 when I finished the first draft.
I’m a realist—maybe this will never come to fruition, but I’m proud of myself for having the courage to go for it. Now I’ve moved into the rewriting and editing phases, and there’s still a ton of work ahead. While I self-published my first book, I’m inclined to try and go the traditional publishing route this time. I know—much longer odds and a lot more time to make it happen. (But hey, I’m retired.) If it doesn’t happen, at least I’ll have the satisfaction of knowing I didn’t stand on the sidelines, and I gave myself a chance. Perhaps this will be too preachy for some, but my advice as a sixty-year-old to that scared teenager is, “Don’t let fear hold you back.”
©Pete Springer 2022
My thanks to Pete for sharing his thoughts about this prompt and I am sure many can relate to his experiences of those formative years and how unsettling they can be.
About Pete Springer
My name is Pete Springer. I taught elementary school for thirty-one years (grades 2-6) at Pine Hill School in Eureka, CA. Even though I retired over three years ago, my passion will always lie with supporting education, kids, and teachers.
When I came out of the teaching program many years ago, I realized how unprepared I was for what was in store for me in the classroom. My college education focused mostly on learning theory rather than the practical day-to-day challenges that all teachers face. Thankfully, I had some great mentors to lean on to help support me in the early part of my career.
I have made it my mission to pay it forward to the next generation of teachers. I was a master teacher to four student teachers, and I have several former students who are now teachers, including one who teaches at my former elementary school. That is pretty cool!
While I was teaching, I decided that one day I would write books for children. That ship is now in the harbor. I took some writing workshops, found a writing critique group, joined SCBWI (Society of Children’s Book Writers and Illustrators), and I recently finished writing my first middle-grade novel. I’ve always connected with kids, and this is my new way of teaching.
My debut MG novel, Second Chance Summer, just got professionally edited, and I will be querying in the coming weeks.
One of the reviews for the book that I can also recommend
Pete Springer’s memoir about his first years teaching is a delightful story for new teachers and will have experienced educators nodding along with him. His early experiences remind all of us of the joy inherent in teaching:
“This job required about as much brainpower as my tree planting experience.”
“This is the story of how I fell in love with teaching and the joys and challenges that this noble profession provided to me over the course of thirty-one years.”
He breaks the book into chapters every teacher will understand:
How did i get here
Setting up your classroom
Working with students
Working with colleagues
Working with your boss
Discipline
…and more. Aside from grading, parents, lunch duty, conferences, and yard duty, these are the biggest issues we teachers face. I’m a veteran teacher of thirty years and still I couldn’t wait to read Pete’s take on these timeless issues.
“Instead of saying, “Do everything my way, and you can become a successful teacher,” she was giving me her permission to find my way.”
“…storytelling was one of the most successful methods to get my students to pay attention.”
“…when we lose our calm, we are teaching them that it is okay to behave in this manner when something is not going right.”
Every new teacher will benefit from Pete’s daily experiences of what in the end results in a journey well traveled with more importance than most of us would car eto admit. Educational philosophies change. Favorite tools like iPads and Chromebooks change. What never changes is the fundamentals that Pete covers in this book:
“…tell the kids when I made similar mistakes growing up.”
“I do think that it is possible for parents or schools to provide too many rewards for kids.”
Overall an excellent book. If you’re a new teacher, I’d call this an essential read prior to your first day.
Read the reviews and buy the book: Amazon US – and:Amazon UK – Read more reviews:Goodreads – Website: Pete Springer WordPress – Twitter: @OfficerWoof
Thank you for dropping in today and it would be wonderful if you could share Pete’s post.. thanks Sally
I can relate to this as a teacher and it certainly resonates with me.
I think though, maybe the opposite, in that I didn’t enjoy college or experience the full benefit.
My courage came later with the play-work.
But I definately think teaching is a great profession and I love reading to children too.
Although my books are probably for a younger audience.
Maybe a middle -grade story one day (I’m working on that) but for now still the picture story book routes with the bus. LOL
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts Sue hugs xx
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The beauty of writing, Sue, is there is an audience whatever age we write for. I volunteer twice a week at an assisted living center in our community. I’m reading MG books to the seniors. I leave each time feeling joyful because I’m connecting with them through literature. There is no better feeling!
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Pete that sounds good.
I like to go to creative writing groups sessions because the prompt is usually outside my normal writing style and I love just writing spontaniously.
I’ve always loved inspiring children in their writing.
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Hi Pete, very pleased to meet you.I really enjoyed your post and you speak a lot of sense. I was never happy at school so I understand your high school experience. You obviously made the right career choice and excelled at it. Your advice to that lone teenager is spot on ☺️💜
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Thanks very much Willow ♥
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Such a nice post 😊
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I tried to use my own experiences in life as a vehicle to connect with my students. Though the kids I taught were younger (7-12 years of age), they experienced many of the same feelings. Loneliness, fear, and wanting to fit in are common feelings for any age. It’s much easier to talk about wanting to change than actually changing, but it’s a necessary first step. I think the only way to teach is to keep it real with kids, which means sometimes being honest enough to admit we screwed up.
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Yes indeed you are so right there, if only we could learn these lessons with out pain 💜
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Pete, it sounds like you found a career you loved and gave back in spades. Best of luck with your new book.
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Thanks Sharon hugsx
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Thank you, Sharon. I recall reading your piece in this fabulous series. Experience is the best teacher in life as long as we pay attention and learn from it.
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A huge congratulations to Pete for completing the first draft of his middle grade book! I enjoyed reading his reflection, which resonated with me. I would have done over my senior year in high school if it were possible.
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Thanks Liz..xx
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You’re welcome, Sally.
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I don’t think many people share our sentiment, Liz. I usually hear people say things like, “I’d never want to go through that again.” I look at it as more of an opportunity to get it right the second time around. It’s all fantasy as it can never happen, but I have tried to apply these lessons in my adult life. Much better to have tried and failed than to not give myself the chance to fail.
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Well, I hurt my parents that year with my acting out behavior. I’ve love to go back and spare them that pain.
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I suspect that you remembered your experiences as a teenager and called on those memories when dealing with your children when they reached that rebellious stage that most teens go through.
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What a wonderful life, Pete – and I loved all your gorgeous photos! Bravo on completing that first draft – I can’t wait to read it one day. Toni
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Thanks Toni ♥
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Hopefully, not too much longer. I tend to operate slower than most because I know I’ve still got a ton to learn. I’m looking forward to reading your latest book, Toni, that’s waiting on my Kindle. I know you write for many age groups, including the age I’m targeting.
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Congratulations on finishing that first draft, Pete! That’s a great accomplishment.
I can relate to your high school experience, and I didn’t even have to move to California to live it. I bet there are a lot of writers who will tell you they share that experience, too. As a group, we tend to be a bit more on the introverted side, and high school was not designed for introverts (or the faint of heart). But you moved past the awkward stage, as one does, and it sounds to me like you’ve lived a blessed life. Good luck on all your future goals!
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Thanks Amy.. xxx
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I don’t think I thought of myself as introverted (neither did my teachers 🤣) in elementary or middle school, but that’s how I saw myself in high school. Being introverted or extroverted is simply who we are—not a good or bad thing. I realize I’m much happier, taking chances and not being afraid to fall down and pick myself back up again when I need to.
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“Don’t let fear hold you back “ … wonderful message, Pete. Wishing you every success with your book! Hugs 💕🙂
Sally, thanks for sharing! Hugs 💕🙂
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Thanks Harmony ♥
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Thank you, Harmony. Your personal story is inspirational. I’m the type who takes inspiration wherever I can find it. We can draw strength from watching others face challenges with courage and class.
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High school is so tough for so many kids! I’m glad Pete made the decision to go for it and put himself out there, back in his youth and again in his retirement. He’s a natural storyteller, and I look forward to his book. A wonderful message. Thanks Pete, and thanks for sharing, Sally.
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Thanks Diana ♥
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If I could go back and do it over, I know I’d make changes. Since we can’t go back, we can either stay the same or change what we don’t like about ourselves. In my case, I didn’t want to keep living my life in fear. It doesn’t mean I accomplish everything I set out to, but it isn’t going to be because I can’t summon up the courage to try.
Many others are far brighter than me, but I’m smart enough to take my cues from those who have gone through the same challenges. I’m trying to learn from brilliant writers like you, Diana.
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What a sweet thing to say, Pete. None of us do everything perfectly and so there’s no need to put that pressure on ourselves. Can you imagine? So we have to find a way to enjoy the effort no matter the outcome. You shine, my friend.
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What a storied life, Pete. So glad I’ve gotten to know you.
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Thanks Jacqui.xx
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You probably see a lot of high school students going through the same challenges I faced, Jacqui. It can be difficult for kids who want to fit in yet not succumb to peer pressure and do things they don’t want to do. High school is a true test of one’s character. I’ve heard some say it was the best time of their life, which is something I wish I had felt.
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I also moved during my freshman year of high school and admit it was a challenge. I remember wanting to join a club but was denied because no one knew me. So I turned around and started a service club with two others who were unknown and, by my senior year, was one of the most popular. The trials of fitting in were very difficult to overcome.
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Thanks for sharing your experience John.. xxhugs
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That speaks to your courage and self-esteem, John. You found a solution to a problem that most people would not have considered. I’m sure that lesson served you well as you moved on. As I’ve told you before, I take inspiration from writers like you who had a lifetime of experiences before publishing their first book later in life.
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I do have a few stories that leak out.
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Another brilliant Guest Post with Sally–on I Wish I Knew Then What I Know Now! This one from Pete Springer
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I appreciate the reblog, Judith. Like you, I’ve enjoyed reading about the lessons others have learned along the way.
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Good luck with your new book and in finding a literary agent – it’s taken me 10 years so far and I still haven’t found one! You’re right in that we have to embrace new challenges to grow in confidence.
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Thanks Stevie. xx
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Many indie authors have done fine without one. You are a perfect example, Stevie, as I’ve read and enjoyed several of your books. You should take solace in knowing there are readers like me who come back for more. It’s likely I’ll mosy on down the road without an agent when the time is right for me.
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Thanks for your comment, Pete. You never know… you might find one.
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Teen years are the ones I wouldn’t want to go through again, though looking back they weren’t bad at all and I had a safe home and some good friends. Turned out it didn’t matter not being like the ‘cool ones’ at school as life did not always turn out well for them.
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Thanks Janet and so true.. the golden girls at school did not always have it so easy. Perhaps something to do with other’s expectations of them.. xx
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I think you hit on one of those keys that some did not possess—a stable home. Having seen the chaos that some of my students lived through, Janet, it’s a wonder that some made it to the other side in one piece. It’s funny how our goals and aspirations change as we mature. Being cool is no longer important to me in the way we looked at it in high school. What I see as cool now is not being afraid of new experiences and challenges.
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I’m sure your pupils held you in great esteem, Pete. It’s not every teacher who can read to his pupils and get good results as you did. Bravo! Wishing you much success with your new book. All the best.
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Thanks for sharing William. hugsx
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Thanks so much, William, and for providing your regular dose of excellent musical choices on The Smorgasbord. I look forward to each Monday and learning what choices you and Sally will make. I especially enjoyed your features on Dionne Warwick and what looks like a series of posts to come regarding Roberta Flack.
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Thank you very much. Pete. It’s a pleasure. All the best.
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Thanks for sharing Michael..hugsx
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I know I speak for many others when I tell you how much we appreciate your reblogs, Michael.
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How i read Pete’s story i am sure his later work as a teacher was really predifined for him. He found his determination, and now with his work as a writer of books for children, he puts the icing on this. Thanks for sharing, Pete and Sally! hugsx Michael
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I agree Michael nicely put hugsxx
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I’ve come to a similar realization, Michael. Writing for me is an extension of my life as a teacher. I want to write contemporary stories about many of the problems that kids face.
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I can relate to your teen years, Pete! I’m an introvert and waiting for people to invite me in. During those years, I always wondered why they were giggling and what they were talking about. One thing that changed my life was my singing. By overcoming the stage fright, I gained confidence. Like you, years of teaching and reading to the students was the best way to gain confidence because students look up to their teachers.
Congratulations on your new MG chapter book. Best wishes on finding a publisher. It takes time but it’s worth the effort.
Thank you, Sally, for featuring Pete. Thank you for this great series.
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Thanks Miriam ♥
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That’s wonderful, Miriam. I think I shared with you before that I was an assistant in our children’s choir at school. I agree that music (either instrumental or voice) is an excellent avenue for building confidence and self-esteem. One of the main ways I tried to help kids was by providing low-risk public speaking situations in class. It’s magical how self-esteem builds with success.
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What you did in the classroom to boost the students; self confidence was wonderful, Pete! I did the same thing in my classes to make sure each student has a voice. Before they know it, they can stand in front of the class and be proud.
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Thanks Miriam..♥
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You’re welcome, Sally. ❤
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Wishing you all the luck in the world finding a publisher I have a feeling you will be lucky, Pete 🙂 Like you my high school years were not the best but college was far better…Like all the others its lovely to get to know you better this really is a great series 🙂 x
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Thanks Carol ♥
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Moving into a new high school and not knowing a single person was one of the most frightening experiences of my life. If I’m at a social gathering and I see someone who looks uncomfortable or lonely, I will now look out for those people and engage them in conversation. It’s human nature to feel uncomfortable when you don’t know anyone, so it seems like it’s the human thing to do.
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What a wonderful post today. Teenage years are hard in the best of circumstances, so I can’t imagine moving to a new school at that time. So glad you found yourself and got past your fears, Pete. And you went on to have a blessed life, touching many other lives. Congratulations on finishing the first draft of the book. I wish you tons of success. Thank you for sharing your thoughts here today, and thank you, Sally, for hosting!
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Thanks Jan ♥
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Overcoming our fears is one of the most empowering things I know. I remembered that feeling and that’s why I specialized in working with students who felt the same way I did. This is a fabulous series. It seems many of us went through many of the same things as we grew up.
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I love how you went past your i securities of high school and opened up yourself to the world of possibilities in college. I had that same experience of not fitting in then, although it took me a few years to find myself and place in this world. Congrats on writing that middle grade book! I hope you find that publisher and have a lot of success!
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Thanks Denise..hugsx
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The blogging community is a microcosm of how society should treat one another. It’s filled with many supportive people eager to offer advice and wisdom. It’s terrific that you became the person you were always meant to be too, Denise.
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I agree with you about your community. If how we treated each other just flowed out into the world, what a great place it would be. Thank you!
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ah reading to children. Choosing to be a lawyer rather limited my opportunities, Pete. While I had any number of childish clients they were never open to chapter reading if they were paying. However i loved reading to my own two and went on reading to them until they were into their teens. I even managed all of the Harry Potter books eventually. So I envy you some! And admire it too. To capture a mind like that has to be one of life’s great joys. I much enjoyed this.
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Thanks Geoff…xx
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It’s a grand series, Sally. I’m not sure where I’d go with it…
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You’ve made significant contributions in your professions too, Geoff. The beautiful part of life is there are a million paths, and everyone’s travels are different. Ah, Harry Potter and I go way back too. It does my heart good to watch my son reach for a book when he’s visiting us. Now that he’s engaged, I’m looking forward to reading to some grandchildren.
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I loved this Pete. You said it, having the confidence is key, and whether we come from happy families or dysfunction, some of us just don’t have confidence. I know you found it in spades and you became a great teacher who no doubt passed on your great experience. And kudos on the new book. I wish you lots of luck and success going trad! ❤
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Thanks Debby ♥
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I’ll be happy to reach the end of the process, whichever way it plays out. I have talked to many authors who have done both, and many say indie is the way to go. As an analytical, left-brained person, writing is my creative outlet, and I’ve enjoyed the challenge of building something from scratch.
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Being a teenager is tough for so many. But you managed through it and came out better in the end. It often takes people a lot longer to realize that life is for living and not being afraid all the time. I have to say, you really haven’t changed much from that first picture!
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Thanks Darlene..hugsx
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Haha, about the picture. I seldom look back and suddenly realize I don’t have many photos from my childhood. On the other hand, our son has no shortage of photos to choose from. We’re those parents who take pictures of everything.🤣
I wish I had adopted this mindset back then, but better late than never, Darlene.
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I’m with Darlene regarding that first picture – undeniably you! ‘Don’t let fear hold you back’ is a wonderfully uplifting comment as was this response to Sally’s brilliant prompt. I know from reading your first book what an inspirational teacher you were and I wish you every success in finding a publisher for what I’m sure will touch the intended readers’ hearts. ♥♥
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What a kind thing to say, Trish! I had many teachers who inspired me, and I’m doing my part to pay it forward. Somebody is always watching. (I mean family, friends, and acquaintances—not the government.)🤣
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Them, too, Pete! 🤣
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Thanks Alex ♥
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This has been a brilliant series, Sally. I perk up each time I see a new author sharing their wisdom. Thanks for all you do for your fellow writers/bloggers creating a safe haven. Your blog is like that house in the neighborhood everyone feels happy and safe visiting.
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Thanks so much for the wonderful compliment Pete and it makes me very happy to hear it hugsxx
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Marvelous post, Pete. Hugs.
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Appreciate it, Teagan. Congratulations on your new book!
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Thanks Teagan. xx
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Oh yes, I so related to what you say here about our high school angst, Pete. But I guess that’s what makes our early teens/high school years so challenging. We haven’t figured out who we are yet, and what we want to be (I mean in BEING, in our personality, not in career). I foundered in my freshman and sophomore years. No confidence. Shy. Introverted. Definitely not in cliques, but I didn’t like cliques anyway. I was amazed and flummoxed how I grew into myself once I left for college. It was wonderful, finding that freedom to be who I wanted to be, not who I was “supposed” to be in high school. Thanks for explaining how it was for you so well, here, and for sharing the GREAT photos.
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Thanks Pamela.. hugsx
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I’ll bet you get a lot of the same reactions that I do when you tell people you used to be introverted because I never would have guessed that about you, Pam. I used to tell my students about being shy and afraid to get out of my comfort zone, and they’d look at me in disbelief because all they were used to seeing was someone who got in front of the school assembly and did something silly.
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Absolutely Pete. And I still call myself a functioning introvert even though my friends tell me I’m crazy. However, they don’t see me when I hide back home with relief for the quiet and peace. 🤓 I think like you, when I’m teaching another part of myself comes out and I find it easy to talk and teach and even act crazy.
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Love this post Pete! Oh, those high school years! I can relate to much of what you said, and sooner or later we come into our own and think less about fitting in and more about what we need for ourselves. 💕
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Thanks Dorothy ♥
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Think about the time wasted trying to pretend to be something we were not. Society gives many mixed messages about “being yourself” while also being judgmental.
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Yes, Society says “be yourself” but it has to be what self it wants you to be!
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Wonderful advice! Which I took without knowing it! Teachers rule!
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Unfortunately, many people continue to live in fear their entire lives. Worrying about what others will think of us can be debilitating.
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They do thanks Noelle..♥
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Wonderful post, Pete! Thanks for inspiring us to go for our dreams.
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Thanks Bette..♥
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Best wishes to you, Bette. I enjoyed Dog Bone Soup so much because it is precisely the kind of book I want to write—books that center around children and the contemporary, real-life problems they face with embedded lessons in a non-preachy way.
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Thanks, Pete. Looking forward to your upcoming book!
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Congrats Pete, good luck. Interesting life you have had. Go for it is a great philosophy. Carpe Diem too. I hope it all comes to fruition. xx
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Thanks Jane xxhugsx
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Pleasure. x
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Your story is right out of the Carpe Diem playbook, Jane. You’ve had such a fascinating life. I always tried to teach my students to follow their dreams with fearlessness, so it would be hypocritical to do anything but that.
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Thanks Pete.. x
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I try to make the most of each day, it is hard at times. Yes, a teacher has so much influence. My English Master (Lit and Lang) encouraged me to write when younger. If it had not been for him I would never have tried. I owe Mr Kilner loads. Yes, follow your dreams. Life is not a dress rehearsal. xx
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This was a great pleasure to read, Sally! Pete is the ‘real deal’, I can attest to that. He is giving, funny, caring, and hardworking. His advice to shoot for the stars, get out of your comfort zone and ‘go for it’ is just perfect. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Congratulations on your new book, Pete! My favorite photo is you showing off Ryan to your students. And, my favorite part of your teaching is reading aloud to your students, being in character, and making books come alive for them. Thank you for making a difference.
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Thanks very much Jennie.. I loved that photo too.. you are both such amazing examples of regarding teaching as a vocation rather than a job. ♥
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Thank you for your kind words. Best to you, Sally. 🥰
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My visit to your classroom was one of the highlights of my year, Jennie. You understand everything that children need and your lessons not only teach and inspire them, but they reach all ages (including retired teachers). Including Gloria, art, music, science, history, literature, and patriotism with your natural enthusiasm and love for children are brilliant. The kids adore you because they see a nurturing and caring teacher. I know I’ve used this description before, but you are a teacher for teachers. God bless!
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God Bless you, Pete! I could have written the same words about you. I dearly hope our paths will cross again.
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Hi Pete, you were lucky compared to many, and I must say that I was also lucky. We had great families and a good start. High school is a difficult time to move, I know as I also moved during that period of my life. Your decision made at 18 years old was pretty impressive. You were a most sensible young man. Congratulations on finishing your book and good luck with the next phase.
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Thanks Robbie..♥
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It seems you came around to listening to that advice already, Pete. Congratulations on your book and good luck! Thanks for the great advice! And thanks, Sally!
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Thanks Olga xx
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I love the positivity with which you face life, Pete. I try, though sometimes it’s not easy. Congrats on accomplishing your second novel! Wishing you much success, I’m sure there will be bidding wars for it! 🙂
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Thanks Jacquie.. hugsx
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Wonderful share, Pete. I would have loved to have you as a teacher. Thank you for giving so much of yourself to your students and us. Another great post, Sally, thank you! 💗
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Thanks very much Gwen ♥
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I wasn’t a fan of the high school years, either, Pete. I,too, had just moved to place where people weren’t very welcoming to the new kid in town. I also love reading to my middle school students, which is why I chose to write stories for young adults. It was great getting to know more about you. Thanks for sharing, Sally! 🙂
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Thanks for adding your experience Yvette ♥
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